Saturday, June 16, 2007

Stories from the depression

Pic of grandma from the mid 50's


My grandmother never really told many stories about her childhood when I was growing up. She was never very sentimental, always too busy taking care of everyone and dealing with day to day crap.

The last few times I've gone up to visit she has told me and her great grand kids a few interesting stories about her childhood that really make me realize how good we have it in this day and age.

My grandmother was born in 1926 in Springfield Ohio. When she was 4 years old the depression hit the rural farmers hard, forcing many off their land and creating severe hardships for just about everybody. They decided to move to Phoenix, Arizona where the newspaper had said there were some job opportunities and less economic hardship. They loaded the model T with a few belongings, mom, dad and six children. Severely overloaded, the Model T could not make it up any major incline so the family would have to get out and push it up every hill and ride downhill and on the flat areas. They ate sandwiches and slept on blankets on the side of the road. There were no highways back then just small poorly maintained country roads.

When they arrived in Kansas City the Ford broke down. With no money to fix it My great grandfather took his family to a local Catholic Church to ask for help.

They let him and his family live in the basement of one of the church buildings, in exchange he would work as a janitor and a handy man for the church. With six kids to feed, My great grandmother did laundry for 10 cents a pound and great grandfather worked his job at the church and as a concrete finisher on the side. Soon, they were able to move out of the church and come to an arrangement with an apartment building where they were able to work for their rent.

Back then, many places did not have a proper bathroom with hot running water. All the children would have to bathe each Saturday night in a galvanized wash tub in the kitchen, with water heated on the stove. Guests and the youngest children bathed first and the unlucky older kids got the cold murky water.

In those times all the kids had to work. The boys had it easier than the girls for some reason, just having to mow a lawn here and there but mostly they got to screw off and go fishing. The girls on the other hand, had to help their mother with sewing, washing, cleaning, food preparation etc... There was very little dissent or back talk in those days. I am told my great grandfather Harry was gentle and never hit the kids but great grandma Marie would beat the living shit out of anyone who gave her guff.

They never made it to Phoenix and most of the kids and grandkids never left Kansas City for some reason.

Now at 81 years old, my grandmother looks back and says they actually had it good during the depression compared to a lot of other people. They had clean clothes, food, a roof over their heads and a penny for a piece of candy once in a while.

Think of all the stuff we complain about and take for granted these days. I consider myself lucky that I didn't have to go through that kind of hardship. Its good to be reminded of these things once in a while.

I'm going to drive up and take the kids to see Grandma, my Aunt and my Uncle in a few days. I should be able to check in once in a while and let you know what is going on.

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35 Comments:

At September 29, 2006 at 8:45 AM , Anonymous Helene said...

That's a lovely story. I agree, our grandparents had it tough, and still today I see it around me, people who have less are somehow happier, they lead simpler lives and expect less. All they need is Love. Maybe it's what's missing in people's perfect lives?

 
At September 29, 2006 at 9:43 AM , Anonymous BobG said...

My grandmother remembered Pancho Villa burning down their house when she was a youngster. She had quite a few interesting stories about life at that time.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 6:42 PM , Anonymous Deborah Aylward said...

That surely was a time of no whining and whimpering. You'd simply "get on with it" in your daily life, and count yourself lucky to hav survived another day. That was according to my own Grandmother.

One only has to look at the photograph, Hammer, to see the strength of character in that Lady's face. She was also very beautiful.

Do take your children for that visit and many more. They'll remember the sights and sounds of being around their elders for the rest of their lives, but mostly they'll remeber the stories of those days.

Write them down, Hammer, as the memories of our relatives who survived those times are our legacy.

Have a safe and happy trip, family Hammer.

Veritas et Fidelis Semper

 
At June 16, 2007 at 7:24 PM , Anonymous BBC said...

Hardship is good for a soul.

But what makes you think they had it so hard? I loved those old days. I still live that way and wouldn't have it any other way.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 7:43 PM , Anonymous terri said...

I love stories like this. Times were much, much simpler and nothing was taken for granted. It seems that the hardship created stronger family bonds than any of us know these days.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 8:47 PM , Anonymous tweetey30 said...

You know my great grand mother died in Oct of 2003 and I never really got any of the stories I wanted from her but my grandmother passed away a few years before my great grandmother did and my aunt didnt want anything to do with the family after great grandma went so I never got any of the stories I wanted. My mom doesnt remember so I cant ask her. Its sad to see them get old and then it hits home. I might post some of my foundest memories of them again this week. Its good to know you are going to go visit them. Some people figure they are getting old and dont visit with family any more. Take care. And hope your trip goes well.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 8:50 PM , Anonymous Infinitesimal said...

in 1957 my mom was 10 years old, and had to heat up water on the woodburning stove, after having pumped it from the well, after which she would bathe her siblings and then she had the cold murkey water bath.

I have no idea why there was no running water, except I know they were dirt poor growing up.

But still, 1957?
damn.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 8:57 PM , Anonymous IEAT_SNOWMANPOOP said...

I love to hear old people tell stories like that. It's just so hard to picture that kind of thing.

Have fun.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 9:47 PM , Anonymous Lexcen said...

It makes me sick to hear about today's teenagers who are stressed if they don't have the right designer label jeans or the latest phone and if they don't have a car they are socially disadvantaged. Tell this to your grandmother and make her laugh.

 
At June 16, 2007 at 10:54 PM , Anonymous Alekx said...

I used to love listening to stories from my great grandparents, like the time my great grandpa changed a tire for John Dillanger when he was running from the police. Gave Grandpa a 20 dollar bill (grandpa didn't know who it was) when the police pulled up and told him who it was grandpa pointed the way Dillanger went. Then with a sly look grandpa told me but I didn't tell that police man about the 20 dollars. :-)

 
At June 16, 2007 at 11:47 PM , Anonymous Kirsten N. Namskau said...

Before it was physical hardship, but they were able to deal with it.
Today we have psychic hardship, and few are able to deal with it.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 4:58 AM , Anonymous *~JoDi~* said...

My grandparents (RIP) were also very giving with the depression-era stories that in my adult life have also made me realize how wonderful life's work is today.

Grandpa was born in 1900 & Grandma in 1915 - in the south. Some of those stories make me long for a simpler old-fashioned time, but then I come back to my senses and realize there's NO WAY I could ever do without my drip coffee maker and mP3 files! :o)

 
At June 17, 2007 at 5:11 AM , Anonymous tshsmom said...

My Dad is only 3 yrs younger than your Grandma. His family was lucky during the Depression too. My grandparents had some prime farmland in southern MN. They always had food on the table and a roof over their heads.
Shoes and clothing were often beyond their reach. Grandma kept her 6 kids clothed in flour sack clothes much of the time. I learned a LOT of my survival skills from my Grandma!

 
At June 17, 2007 at 5:14 AM , Anonymous R2K said...

: )

 
At June 17, 2007 at 5:43 AM , Anonymous tysgirl said...

For sure we could all learn something if we took the time to sit and listen to stories like this more often.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 6:18 AM , Anonymous Jenafear said...

Great story. When we lose the use of something, like a hot water tank for instance, it is also a reminder of how we take stuff for granted. Though I suppose it goes back to business as usual once the fix-it guy comes.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 6:25 AM , Anonymous Ordinary Janet said...

I wonder what the kids of today will tell their grandchildren? Will they said they had it tough, even though we think kids today are in general have it way easier than any other generation?

I couldn't take my eyes off your grandma's picture, she has wonderful bone structure-like she could have been a Hollywood star.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 8:45 AM , Anonymous Jean said...

One of the things I like about you so much... you appreciate the right stuff.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 8:50 AM , Anonymous Joker_SATX said...

Happy Dad's Day Bro!

Flyinfox_SATX

 
At June 17, 2007 at 10:13 AM , Anonymous FHB said...

Folks nowadays have no clue what the older folks had to contend with on a daily basis. So much respect for your folks. They are like so many others who built this country, so that folks now can live with their hands out. Give them a huge hug for all of us.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 11:03 AM , Anonymous evalinn said...

Yeah, always rememeber the good stuff!

 
At June 17, 2007 at 11:12 AM , Anonymous Doggy Smile said...

Thank you for the story, Hammer.

She is right, and so are you.

Happy Father's Day !

 
At June 17, 2007 at 1:05 PM , Anonymous Kitem said...

Happy father's day Hammer, i think you deserve it.
I swear I try to be a perfect gran'ma, even though I don't see my grand children as much as i would love it. I promise I will tell them stories of the family european side.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 2:27 PM , Anonymous Mushy said...

Great story Hammer...she's the same age as my mom...they have stories to tell and I love to listen.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 2:36 PM , Anonymous Schmoopie said...

Have you ever read A Tree Grows in Brooklyn? It gave me a greater perspective on the Great Depression from the point of view of one family. You're right, people these days take a lot for granted. We have so much compared to our grandparents.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 5:42 PM , Anonymous Hammer said...

La Cremiere: I guess you work with what you got. These days people forget there are other things more important than keeping up with the jones.

Bobg: that would be something worth recording for posterity.

deborah: I'm taking my tape recorder this time. thanks for the great idea and the kind words.

BBC: I would like to live more simply like I used to although I don't think my family would like it much.

terri: people didn't have time to bicker and complain about meaningless stuff back then I guess.

tweety: can't wait to read about them.

infini: in the apalacian mountains a lot of folks still live like that these days.

snowmanpoop: It's funny to think that not that long ago nearly everyone lived like that.

lexcen: it makes me sick too. I'm embearrassed for ingrates like that who don't know what tough is.

alekx: that is a great story. I would have kept the 20 too. That was like $300 in todays dollars.

kirsten: you are exactly right. Maybe physical hardship makes the mind and spirit stronger.

Jodi: when the power goes out I'm reminded of what we have become used to and how much it sucks to be without.

tshsmom: They were lucky.. many farms were taken by the bank due to them being used for collateral on new farm equimnent and such. I remember hearing my grandmother talk about flour sack dresses too.

tysgirl: Kids these days don't seem to have the patience or interest for that sort of thing. But I still sit my kids down and tell them stories if they want to hear em or not :)

jenafear: Or they go to a hotel :)

janet: Yeah I tell my kids that my video games only had 8 colors :)
I never say any of those pics of grandma till recently. I was surprised at her striking features. I only knew her once hard life had aged her.

jean: thanks :)

flyinfox: thanks man you too!

FHB: They are the reason we can be so comfortable. they built the infrastructure.

evalinn: I'll get some more stories for sure :)

Annie: thanks!

Kitem: I'm sure they would love to hear some of your stories.

mushy: I'm sure she's full of em. She likes to gossip too.

schmoopie: I'll have to check that out. I've been on a reading kick lately :)

 
At June 17, 2007 at 6:33 PM , Anonymous Jeannie said...

My mother tells me a bit about the depression - her family had it pretty good as well. Her father had a good job at the steel mill and built and repaired radios on the side. Her mother kept soup on the stove for the "tramps".

 
At June 17, 2007 at 6:56 PM , Anonymous BBC said...

Yeah, I pack my water, don't have cable TV, things like that, but I don't have to pay for it all either. And I'm cool with not having all that because it didn't make my life better when I did have it.

Helen just turned 85, she could have all the modern crap but she doesn't want it an still heats her home with a wood burning kitchen stove and heats her water on it. And she is the happiest most well adjusted woman I know.

But damn it, I am going to put a shower in here as soon as I find the time to.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 8:08 PM , Anonymous Infinitesimal said...

BBC has internet access and a computer, but no shower?

Maybe he goes to the library?
Anyway:

Happy Father's Day to youuuuuuuu Hammer!!

Thanks for being such a good adopted Dad, better than they could have asked for.

 
At June 17, 2007 at 11:49 PM , Anonymous John McElveen said...

Every time a Senior dies Wisdom and Knowledge gained over a lifetime pass away too. We should seek out and listen and learn from the great minds that grew to a ripe old age!

God Bless ya Hammer!! Thanks

John

 
At June 18, 2007 at 1:27 AM , Anonymous BEAST said...

just goes to show how much has changed in a short time , I enjoyed the post :-)

 
At June 18, 2007 at 8:13 AM , Anonymous JAM said...

And it's great that you and your kids are hearing these stories from someone who lived through it. That's the main reason I started blogging, I wanted my kids and eventually grandkids to hear about my life in my "voice." I know that I have never lived through any kind of hardship you're talking about here. They were a scrappy bunch of folks, no doubt about it.

My family all being from the south, they had the luxury of decent growing seasons and massive gardens and the resulting canning of things for winter. My Dad, Uncle and their Dad, all would get up before dawn and squirrel hunt and Grandma would cook them that day. They ate a lot of squirrel, rabbit, opossum, etc., as well as raising their own hogs.

It was a different world. Your Grandma looks like she's about to give the photographer an earfull in that photo.

And do you realise that your family were all just part of the kind of migrations due to natural and economic disasters that have caused mass moving of people since the beginning of time? The people in New Orleans and the news make it sound horrible that the government hasn't come in and totally rebuilt the whole place in one year, but I just see it as yet another mass migration caused by natural disaster. It's as common as storms, floods, and whatnot, the result is that people move to try to have a better life.

 
At June 18, 2007 at 11:51 AM , Anonymous Carrie said...

Great story! I had it pretty bad as a kid but nothing like that.

 
At June 19, 2007 at 1:04 PM , Anonymous Jami said...

Did anyone ever tell you your grandmother was hot? Did it creep you out?

 
At June 29, 2007 at 8:43 AM , Anonymous DirtCrashr said...

My dad's a year older and still going strong but he doesn't talk much about the past...

 

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