Last words on why I carry

Your initial explanation of "why you carry" suggests that you have a single .22 caliber pistol with a clip that holds eight and an extra clip. This would be all you need in every concievable self-defense situation that would arise except for the ludicrously impossible scenario some might make up.

Scott: A .22 is a terrible choice for self defense, many people don't even realize they are shot when the adrenaline is pumping. I carry a small 5 shot .44 revolver. I've read reports of people thinking a .22 was a thorn or a sting until they got home and saw the hole.

You have already stated that you sometimes carry three weapons on you. You also own multiple weapons. You also enjoy shooting the crap out of a machine gun, you like reading gun mags sitting on the toilet... etc...

The three weapons is to keep them from being unsecured and getting into the wrong hands. If I'm going somewhere especially dangerous I might have two but rarely.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and suggest you have a psychological attachment to firearms. A fetish, if you will... And I am also going to go out on a limb and predict you don't feel that way about your tire iron or fire extinguishers.

Shooting was the only sport I was any good at. Collecting came from an interest in history, the aesthetics and utility of firearms. I don't sit there and hug them at night. I haven't opened my safe in months.. no reason to, unless I'm going to shoot some targets. My carry gun is an ugly and uninteresting hunk of scratched up metal. My gun collection and carry guns are totally seperate entities.

So, like I said before, dishonesty is one of the hallmarks of the NRA's approach to keeping "your guns". Your guns are not for "protection". They are for your amusement. ONE small fire arm is for your protection, the rest... one can only imagine... My bet is that you are careful with these. Well that's good. But what about the nutters who aren't? An abundance of guns get into the hands of "criminals" because people own an abundance of guns and they get robbed or the patriarch dies and the kids divvy them up, etc...

My guns will be safely handled by my wife or children who have been or are being educated in their safe handling. If they are disposed of it will be by auction or gun shop.

Your desire to own
mutiple firearms is a statistical danger to society.

Statistically unproven, A Brady campaign lie. Defensive uses of firearms to ward off attackers do not get news coverage. Studies estimate that guns are used to ward off attackers at least 2.1 million times per year.The FBI crime reports and Centers for disease control (under gun banner Clinton) agree that relaxed gun laws do not lead to more crime.

I also metioned the tactic of slippery sloping an argument. The NRA loves to do this. You too, have incorporated this tactic into your argument. "Seven legislators in Congress" want to outlaw guns altogether... So? This implies what? That rational, Federal guns laws can't happen because seven might try and go too far? Silly.

Seven of the MOST powerful legislators Reid, Pelosi, Kennedy, Boxer, Shumer,Moinyahan, to name a few. Gun banning is their pet issue and they attempt to whittle away all they can. I'ts read it on CNN and MSNBC These are the movers and shakers and hold an enormous amount of power in our congress by heading up the major committees.

"If you look at gun control advocates worldwide, you'll see that their reasonable laws gradually became "turn em in or face jail" This has happened in Canada, Australia and Great Britain. They never had many gun crimes to begin with and many gun bans later they seem to have just as many if not more gun crimes."See... Here you try and turn an attempt at gun regulation into gun prohibition.

Typical NRA dishonest tactic. Reasonable Federal, uniform gun laws is not prohibition, and yet the conversation can't get out the gate because you change the conversation.

I'm not sure what reasonable laws you are talking about, all out bans are proposed and have been put on the table many times in the last 40 years. Some of which are still in effect today. I haven't seen any reasonable laws proposed in recent history,

And again you go back to dishonesty. Ask an Australian the effect the laws had. They WERE instigated because of a mass slaughter by guns incident, BTW...

And the gun confiscation did nothing to prevent gun violence. The governments assured gun owners that the "reasonable registration laws" were for their own protection, then once a ban was passed it was simple to go round up all the guns. this has been repeated over and over.

"Reasonable gun control. Really no such thing, Criminals don't obey laws, if there is a market for crime guns they will pour across our borders like illegal drugs do now."

Actually, your argument is like suggesting we should have no speed laws because "criminals" speed. So if the law gets broken, we shouldn't have it. What if pathological "speeders" all took up the argument that speed is a god given right? That "speeding" saves time and therefore is beneficial to society. They could bombard the Congress with money and lobbyist and pretty soon try and convince all that if we all "speeded", there would be less accidents.

Gun laws are like this, The speed limit on your street is 20mph, kids race at 80mph all day long, so the government lowers the limit to 15mph...who suffers? The cops are spread too thin and gun laws are rarely enforced, prosecuted and usually get plea bargained. The only people it affects are ones who care about obeying laws. Criminals interviewed in prison say they love gun control, it makes their profession much safer.

This is how ludicrous most pro gun arguments end up sounding...What you are really saying is that you have a gun thing and in spite of all the death and sadness surrounding gun availability in America, you'd like to keep your thing going...

You haven't proposed anything that will stop death or guns getting into the wrong hands. why should my rights be infringed because of what others MIGHT do. It's like taking away my car because of the 40,000 + traffic fatalities or banning alcohol because of the 180,000 plus booze related deaths annually....oh wait they already tried that one.

Some interesting quotes--"Sadly the ones who shouldn't carry do so without a license and the wackos who want to get a license won't be able to pass the screening"Gee, sounds like gun control at least partially working...

Nope, they carry one anyway after being denied a permit.

"I don't really desire to carry a pistol with me all the time. I'm not really a pistol guy. But seeing the horror in Virginia, I think now that I need to start carrying regularly."Gee, I see something on TV that scares me, and I need to add to the problem by adding more guns to the equation...

Why not, unarmed people were just lined up and executed. There have been 3 school massacres recently thwarted by armed teachers and students. They didn't get much coverage, good guys fighting back isn't as exciting as piles of bodies.

"The odds of your gun being used eventually to harm someone are statistically greater than on you being the heroic one who stopped a gunman. Don't you feel bad when your gun lobbying produces the highest rate of gun-related deaths in the western world? Why not? I know I would.

Our culture of violence has nothing to do with guns and everything to do with it being a divided multi-cultural society. Why should we be disarmed when faced with such terrible odds? Do you think throwing my guns in an incinerator is going to make me safe? What happens when I'm old and thugs want to kill me for my social security check? Should I just let them? Or should I have the best means of self defense at hand?" Should a 110 pound woman bebe forced to fist fight with 240lb rapists? Are dead victims morally superior because they took one for the greater good of society?

I have a feeling if that university was one of the ones that allowed concealed carry, that shooter would not have been able to run rampant like he did."Wishful thinking. The odds that a concealed to carry individual would have been on the scene, heroic, accurate, and not the first one shot (this boy planned this for a month. You don't think he would have marked the guy who carried?) are slim to none. ALl you are advocating is increasing the odds of innocents all over AMerican Universities from being shot by advocating more hand guns in public places. All you are advocating is increasing the risk of accident and crimes of opportunity and passion...

People who legally carry handguns have proven themselves 8 times less likely to commit violent crime than armed police officers. I've gone my whole life being decent and crime free and so have the MILLIONS of licensed carriers across this country. They just don't start going wacko because there is a gun strapped to their hip. This is proven time and time again when carry laws are relaxed. What makes a hunk of metal turn people into a lunatic... magic?

Many people who express the fears and want to legislate based of what people "might" do with their guns are usually afraid of what they THEMSELVES would do with gun on their hip and project that insecurity onto everyone else.

I don't appreciate being called dishonest. You can call me wrong or delusional but the voice you use to try to discredit is nasty and biting. I would hate to think you treat people like this in your day to day life.

Have you ever noticed that I don't personally attack people on my or anyone else's blog?.... I guess that's do to me being a selfish liar with a gun fetish.